Subject	Sure isn't much bigger than stock though.
Posted by	Ash's Z on September 30, 2006 at 12:55 PM
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In Reply To	Ebay Intercoolers Review (picture heavy) posted by Slobo7x on September 30, 2006 at 12:29 PM
Message	98in^3 for Stock 160in^3 for the Ebay 216in^3 for Greddy 245in^3 for AshSPEC Sport-SMIC and Z1 ZMIC 258in^3 for Stillen 331in^3 for AshSPEC MASSIVE The ebay ICs will support 500RWHP, but it will take more compressor discharge pressure to do this as compared to the other aftermarket intercoolers out there. The other alternatives will allow you to make your power goal with less stress on the other parts of the system, which translates to either more power potential or more safety margin. These intercoolers aren't all that much better than stock and it may give people a false sense of security, leading to bad things going on within the engine. I presume if you dont plan to run anything larger than a Sport500-class turbocharger, the ebay intercoolers would be an inexpensive solution, but it seems that most people are skipping over that class of turbo nowadays and going for setups that will require better intercooling for the sake of safety or better performance. and the pictures of the cast inlets/outlets are the reason I didn't go with that process - you can't produce a thin wall pipe in a casting process, and you can't make the pipe larger and expect it to fit the OEM couplers, so, you end up compromising the i.d. of the pipe. There are several reasons those intercoolers are as cheap as they are, and you will get what you pay for. [ ashspecz.com ] [ agpowers@bellsouth.net ] Enthusiasts soon understand each other. --W. Irving. Are you an enthusiast? If you are out to describe the truth, leave elegance to the tailor. Albert Einstein
Follow Ups	Ebay Intercoolers Review (picture heavy) - Slobo7x 12:29:34 09/30/06 Re: Ebay Intercoolers Review (picture heavy) - tjlazer 12:43:48 09/30/06 I'm in. (n/m) - jmw23712 12:52:02 09/30/06 "What did the hand say to the face?...... SLLAAAP" - PiotrC70 13:51:03 09/30/06 I dunno its not like - LJZTT 14:37:46 09/30/06 If they have their own company name and website, - PiotrC70 15:09:25 09/30/06 Re: If they have their own company name and website, - Slobo7x 15:40:03 09/30/06 so why start now? ;o) (n/m) - PiotrC70 17:27:39 09/30/06 true but like any other flea market, ebay's appeal is the - LJZTT 15:43:11 09/30/06 But it's an intercooler, it isn't that complicated. - jmw23712 16:21:13 09/30/06 But if you want to save money - ZXRider(SoCal) 16:25:47 09/30/06 but for not a whole lot more, I can upgrade. - jmw23712 16:28:22 09/30/06 There seems to be a big misunderstanding about intercooling. - Ash's Z 16:43:04 09/30/06 any chance you are gonna have a sport smic's group buy then? - jmw23712 16:52:58 09/30/06 The Sport-SMICs are the least expensive in their class. - Ash's Z 17:04:49 09/30/06 Specs from the ebay add within. Comments? - Barry'z (NJ) 21:23:11 09/30/06 Hah! They are certainly bloating thier numbers >>>> - Ash's Z 21:38:56 09/30/06 Thanks. (n/m) - Barry'z (NJ) 21:43:06 09/30/06 Nice find! (n/m) - Spongerider :) 23:28:41 09/30/06 Re: Hah! They are certainly bloating thier numbers >>>> - Gho32 08:23:26 10/01/06 Re: Re: Hah! They are certainly bloating thier numbers >>>> - Slobo7x 10:17:49 10/01/06 Sure isn't much bigger than stock though. - Ash's Z 12:55:31 09/30/06 2nd - ZLover4Life 13:03:14 09/30/06 For the price, I wouldn't mind getting my hands on a set - Ash's Z 13:11:48 09/30/06 Re: For the price, I wouldn't mind getting my hands on a set - Slobo7x 18:12:36 09/30/06 no they don't - moxie 13:10:54 09/30/06 It is an inexpensive solution that would be better than - Ash's Z 13:14:45 09/30/06 100% agreed (n/m) - moxie 13:28:59 09/30/06 Re: It is an inexpensive solution that would be better than - Slobo7x 18:10:51 09/30/06 No problem - I can appreciate your excitement and your - Ash's Z 00:31:33 10/01/06 I like the massives, they are massive - zboost(tx) 13:48:44 09/30/06 That they are. :) - Ash's Z 13:53:14 09/30/06 Thanks, - zboost(tx) 13:54:42 09/30/06 A little preview: - Ash's Z 14:15:09 09/30/06 :( (n/m) - Die V10 14:22:18 09/30/06 I take it these are a mockup for R&D or are your - PiotrC70 14:28:08 09/30/06 The pics are a set of ICs/Ducts that are shipping on Monday - Ash's Z 14:32:36 09/30/06 what about the shape? - mousersix 19:43:04 09/30/06 You are joking, right? - Ash's Z 21:30:43 09/30/06 I think he's saying...we want the fog lap ducts integrated! - maglito 03:05:37 10/01/06 how about your 2.5'' IC piping for the massives - ARA300ZX 14:21:00 09/30/06 I'm working hard at it. It will be a few more weeks still. (n/m) - Ash's Z 14:22:06 09/30/06 closer to the greddys than the stockers though - LJZTT 15:53:15 09/30/06 The ebay intercoolers are no substitute for the other - Ash's Z 16:15:34 09/30/06 Agreed. (n/m) - SeedyROM 16:51:21 09/30/06 Re: The ebay intercoolers are no substitute for the other - Slobo7x 21:58:21 09/30/06 Sport-SMICs are $800/pr and they flow 618CFM@1psi PD. - Ash's Z 00:38:41 10/01/06 nice post - moxie 12:55:50 09/30/06 Aren't they suppose to be 7x7x3.5 ? (n/m) - SuparexTT 13:01:07 09/30/06 They are what you see, I measured them.. Ebay - Slobo7x 10:12:01 10/01/06 Nice, thanks for the info (n/m) - TTFairladyZ 13:10:21 09/30/06 Do we get to pick which 48 states? (n/m) - Zluster(Abudan) 13:32:10 09/30/06 my washer pump broke. - nemo1080 15:05:20 09/30/06 Just curious.. did you paint the IC silver? Looks painted. (n/m) - Biz 16:05:56 09/30/06 Re: Just curious.. did you paint the IC silver? Looks painted. - Slobo7x 18:07:00 09/30/06 thanks for taking the time to write this up. (n/m) - Jonez 17:24:20 09/30/06 Re: Ebay Intercoolers Review (picture heavy) - movenu 20:06:19 09/30/06 Butt Dyno ;~) (n/m) - Barry'z (NJ) 21:07:33 09/30/06 Hardly. >>>>>>> - Ash's Z 21:41:57 09/30/06 In Slobo's post he states 10-25hp increase. - Barry'z (NJ) 21:57:07 09/30/06 25-30 with what turbos? (n/m) - Spddracer 22:50:18 09/30/06 It was 25-30HP using PE1420's, which are quite efficient - Ash's Z 00:16:34 10/01/06 The hardly statement was in reference to the butt-dyno - Ash's Z 00:21:34 10/01/06 Re: The hardly statement was in reference to the butt-dyno - Barry'z (NJ) 07:56:05 10/01/06 Re: Ebay Intercoolers Review (picture heavy) - Gho32 07:47:36 10/01/06 Probably not all that far off. That is just one variable - Ash's Z 13:08:47 10/01/06
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